Duane wrote:There was actually another thread on this very topic a few months back. The problem is this - how can the device tell that it's woken up in the same location and should continue to try the current configuration, or that it's been moved to another location and should bring up the network configuration dialog?
Which is the logic to beeing disconnected? The fear to can't connect?
Logic: Be disconnected because possibly you can't get a connection!
(Mostly my C1 will take many tries to get a connection although the WLan is up and the C1 is less than 1m (39.37 inch) near the AP.)
Duane wrote:It would be really annoying if I took a device from home to work and had to wait for some indefinite time for the device to decide that it's not at home anymore - I'd want the configuration dialog to come up as soon as possible so that I can set it up and get back to work before my boss catches me screwing around.
Maybe it is a problem of the chumby concept, but if the device is starting it should also be able to start without internet connection. The connection should be established in the background (no waiting) and if you want to change the network setting you can press the "chumby" button and go to "settings->network"
Why the chumby can do nothing without a internet connection? There were many devices which also working without internet.
1. my old alarm clock radio (clock, FM radio, secure alarm with FM)
2. my mobile phone (clock, FM radio, MP3 player with ID3, calender, games, ...) also without GSM
3. my HIFI system (clock, FM radio, MP3 player with ID3, secure alarm with FM or MP3)
Maybe 1 and 3 can't use internet for additional functions but they support basics and i wouldn't start building a house by it's roof.
Duane wrote:In my home network, there are several devices between my chumbys and the Internet - a wifi access point, connected to a router, which is in turn connected to a cable modem - on a power failure, even if the chumby were constantly retrying, that wouldn't help if these other devices don't come up in perfect order, which they frequently don't. I've also had flickering-light-type brown-outs where one of the devices loses its brains and need to be power-cycled, often requiring that the others also be rebooted even though they were not directly affected.
And what is the problem if the C1 tries to connect at least?
Duane wrote:With the Chumby One, since there's a battery, the ability to recover from network loss is pretty good as long as the network comes up while the battery is still able to deliver power, and it was connected when the power loss occurs - it goes into a mode that retries the network configuration on a periodic basis. The Classic also does this when it loses connection (like an ISP on LAN problem), but obviously does not survive a power loss.
And why it doesn't do this on startup?
The problem is that the C1 loads the control panel always from the internet to be "superactual". It could also load a actual version 1 minute later (if the connection is established) but it will rather be useless/boring than not "superactual".
I don't know whether it is really difficult to program the C1 that he can provide functions dynamically dependent on network availability, but i know that many people want it so.
I discovered that the C1 does the things i said (FM, MP3) if the connection is lost after the control panel is loaded.